Curriculum Committee Minutes - December 10, 2002


Present: Davidson, Bottom, Wallace, B. Wright, Watson, Gold, Gulig, Allen, T. Wright, Rarey, Lawson, Sumners, Hatch, Duerson, Karle, Butson, Normann, Meuleman, Genuardi, Harrell, Lind, Rathe


No announcements to report. The updated list of subcommittees is now posted on the Curriculum Committee website. Dr. Wright recommended Vonda Douglas to be a member of the research group. Dr. Tisher is appointing faculty to the committees and Dr. Davidson will pass this information on to Dr. Tisher.


Dr. Davidson introduced Paul Duncan, who is Professor in Health Services Administration.

Tentative agendas for the next few meetings include:
January: Interdisciplinary Health Professions Education
February: Retreat at the Sheraton Hotel
March: Combining ACGME and COM competencies

How do we measure the outcome of our students? Are we happy with our end-product?

 

Measuring Quality of Care
Donabedian
(Davidson's Corollary: Measuring Quality of
Undergraduate Medical Education)

Structure
Measures pertaining to the capacities, technologies, and infrastructure that make up the structure of the educational process (e.g., clinical information system, number and types of staff, types of facilities, access to treatment modalities.

Process

Outcome

Limitations: Measuring Student Knowledge

Limitations: Measuring Student Practice

Limitations: Measuring Residency Performance

Limitations: Measuring Physician Practice

Multiple Measures

Problem

Specifics

What will you measure? How do you define a quality product?

Dr. Davidson explains that this is a baseline quality we need to have to support the educational effort.
Process measures - activities that are actually done; underlying theory that we will get a desired outcome; also called proxy meaasure or performance measures. Does it relate to outcome or is it related to outcome?

Outcome represents the final effects of the intervention on the student's success. As it is appropriate to determine the outcome of the educational process. He askes, what will you measure? How will you define a quality product?

Answers from some members were: satisfactory completion of a PBE; a good doctor; can they pass licensure; how are they performing during internship year; clinical skills exam should be a measure.

Dr. Meuleman thought we should be studying residency education more. Some comments were:

Maybe we should ask what bad outcomes are common in practicing physicians; poor interrelations with colleagues and patients; disruptive physician; lifelong learning is another area physicians have problems.

The curriculum committee is not responsible for admitting students, but they are responsibile for medical student education. Dr. Rathe suggested that we have markers or themes to evaluate (same as competencies). The question is: When do we evaluate our students, and how do we do it? It was suggested that there be some kind of evaluation at the end of the 4th year besides the questionnaire. Dr. Lind asked: what about self-assessment? How can we measure self-assessment?

Dr. Hatch stated that Capstone should be required, not voluntary. Dr. Davidson stated that unless we determine what the deficiencies are we should not change with the curriculum. The reason for our interest in these concepts is that the evaluation of outcomes will provide information about the most appropriate changes needed for the curriculum.

Summary: Whitcombe's editorial


Paul Duncan suggested that the committee needs to measure quality both at the beginning and at the end of training. He also suggested doing something with T1 measure when students come into medical school. Dr. Genuardi pointed out that we don't do assessment in year 1, and everyone doesn't come in with the same baseline level of knowledge or attitude. Dr. Normann suggests that we give feedback to the people on admissions committee about medical students. Also, give better feedback to interviewers in the process.

Next meeting will be January 14. We will talk about interdisciplinary education. Meeting adjourned at 8:53 a.m.